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25A-185 (51) M.J. MORAN, INC. LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL FIRE PROTECTION DIVISION 4 SOUTH MAIN STREET TELEPHONE: FAX: HAYDENVILLE, MA 01039 (413)268-7251 (413)268-9375 TO: Northampton Building Inspector DATE: 05/28/02 1 JOB NUMBER: 01-801 212 Main Street ATTENTION: Mr. Tony Patillo Room 100 Building Department RE: Fire Sprinkler Upgrades At: Northampton, MA 01060 Minute Maid WE ARE SENDING YOU ❑ ATTACHED ❑UNDER SEPARATE COVER VIA THE FOLLOWING ITEMS: ❑SHOP DRAWINGS ❑PRINTS ❑PLANS ❑SAMPLES ❑SPECIFICATIONS ®COPY OF LETTER []CHANGE ORDER ❑ COPIES DATE NUMBER DESCRIPTION 01 05/06/02 Copy Letter from Rvbak Engineering. Inc. 01 01/04/02 Copy Fax from Rvbak Engineering, Inc. THESE ARE TRANSMITTED AS CHECKED BELOW: ❑For approval ❑Approved as submitted ❑Resubmit copies for approval ❑For your use ❑Approved as noted ❑Submit copies for distribution ❑As requested [-]Returned for corrections ❑Return corrected prints ❑For review and comment ❑ ❑FOR BIDS DUE: , 2002 ❑PRINTS RETURNED AFTER LOAN TO US REMARKS: Tony: We are in the preliminary design stages on this project. We would like to proceed without an emergency generator provided local authorities are in agreement with our engineer's determinations. Your response is appreciated. I am also sending copies to Northampton Fire Department and the electrical inspector asking for their approval as well. Preliminary permit plans will be prepared when this issue is resolved. Thank you! COPY TO: Job File Q SIGNED: /- Date: J--o28-02 (3) -MU116111100 And structures of Use Group E,with A the firs pump, it is this singular issue that caused the r0t:01 Occupant load of more than 300 occupants; convening Of 8'rechnical Code Council. (MC), (4) Buildings and structures Of Use Group H, (5) Buildings and structures of Use Group 1,hot-4ne Regulators that are juriadlotionally involved in the surgery or treatment areas. design and construction of buildings and their required systems include Building Officials, Fire Officials, Wiring Section 924.1, titled"6eryeral", in part;states that:fire Imspector-4 and others. PUMP6, shall be designed And installed in accordance. with 527 CMR 12.00 and NFPA 20... Although the Building Official and the Fire Official Are involved wady in the review of A proposed fire pump Der"VIlmstallatiOM compliance with the requirements Of design (which would Address the issue of reliable power), 527 CMR 12.00 ensures that all electrical work will the Wiring inspector is typically not involved early in the conform to the requirements of the Massachusetts Regulatory review process. He may, at the time of Electrical Code. inspection of the installation of the electric-motor- driven pump (for conformance to 527 CMR 12.00). De0iOnfinstallation requirements of NFPA 20-1996 legitimately question/challenge An engineer of record's (standard for the Installation of Centrifugal Fire Position that Power to a site Is reliable. The Wiring Pumps) are interesting relative to the question of Inspector could then' require some form of back-up whether or not back up power (not; emergency power power, based on his/her interpretation of 527 CMR because 7,50 CMR -the State Building Code-dictates 12.00. Such a requirement, coming late in the when emergency power is required) may be needed for construction process Can have a serious negative the fire pump. Impact on cost and building and fire pump system layout. For electric-motor-driven fire pumps, NFPA 20, Chapter 6, 5ection 6-2.3.1, in part, stater. For pumps driven by For such reasons it is recommended that the Widrie where reliable power cannot be obtained Inspector of the juriedictict?' be brought into the from a private power station or utility service(emphasis Regulatory review process--arly if the engineer of record added), one or more of the following shall also be has determined that due to electric power reliability, no provided. back-up power to the fire pump is required. (a) A secondary private power station or utility service; (17) An on-rite generator, Clow attention should be paid to the commentary to NFPA (c) A redundant diesel-engine-driven fire pump 20 5ection 6-2.3 and 6-3 relative to the issue of providing complying with other portions of NFPA 20, reliable power (d) A redundant steam-turbine-driven fire pump complying with other portions of NFPA 20. Note that unless the State Building Code is requiring emergency power to the fire pump, NFPA 20 essentially allows The engineer of record to make an assessment and arrive at a technically defendable determination as to whether or not reliable power exists at the proposed site of the fire pump, If the engineer of record deverminer, that reliable power to the site does exist, then NFPA 20, 5ection 6-2.3-1, as discussed above, would not be expected to be invoked. Problems, however, arising in the field, involve the legitimate concern of Regulators that the engineer of record's reliable power assessment, is inaccurate and consequently some form of back-up power is required for Page 6 uan u" uc uu:uta K`joaK engineering 1 't1O 4PJb aaoa p.c • v l ° WHEN IS EMERGENCY POWER OR OTHER BACK-UP POWER REQUIRED FOR ELECTRIC-MOTOR-DRIVEN FIRE PUMPS? (TH15 ARTICLE AL50 PREOENT5 FINDINGS AND 055ERVATION5 OF A TECHNICAL CODE COUNCIL CONVENED TO D15CU55 THI8(55UE) When should either emergency power or some form of back up power be required for fire pumps;?This is always an interesting question. The State Building Code (780 CMR, Sixth Edition), Chapter 9, Section 924.3, titled "Emergency Power", sets the "where required" criteria for when emergency power is required for fire pumps and is otherwise explicitly silent on requiring any other form of back-up power to fire pumps. Relative to emergency power requirements, Section 924.3, in part states. All fire pumps shall be provided with emergency power when installed in (1) High-rise buildings as defined by MGL 048 20A and 760 CMR; (2) Buildings and structures of Use Group A,with a total occupant load of more than 300 occupants, Word Page 5 N Jan 04 02 09:07a Rybak Engineering 1 413 436 5563 p. 1 an-Forest. n, sA01013 RYBAK ENGINEERING INC. Phone:(3)416-556.3 36-5i(X) V4 awn,M�Ol UF23 D .tax:(113) Fire Protection Consultants Fax Cover Page To: Poulin,Conrad Fax Number: 14132689375 Company: M.J. Moran,Inc. Date: 1/4/2002 From:Carl Koslowski e-mail : eckCrybak-fpc.com Company: Rybak Engineering,Inc. Pages including cover page: if 3 Subject . Minute Maid Electrical Po-%ver Supply Message: Attatched is a summary of the situation as published in Codeword. The conditions at this site are: 1. As engineer of record I have assessed the power supply and have determined that is in fact reliable. 2. The use group for the site is mixed, B, F1, and S1. This classification does not require emergency power. 3. As stated within the Codeword article, the Fire Marshall and Wiring Inspector are free to question my determination that reliable power exists. We should get preliminary approval from them at this point and we can can formal approval when permit documents are produced. 4. The owner has suggested that emergency power may be pursued as an added safety feature above the minimum requirements of the building code. 5. The owner has also stated a preference to an electric pump over a diesel pump based on the reduced maintenance associated with an electric pump system. Sincerely, Carl C. Koslowski, PE WnFax PRO Cover Page rrem:vmce 10:Conrad Poulin Date:5/6/2002 Time:8:18:30 AM Page 2 of 2 d5 Rybak Engineering, Inc. Fire Protection Consultants 132 Forest Avenue Warren,MA 01083-0709 r (413)436-5500* Fax 436-5563 , May 6,2002 i h r-1Y L 1-002 �! Conrad Poulin s M.J. Moran, Inc. 4 South Main Street Haydenville, MA 01039-0278 RE: Minute Maid, Northampton—Fire pump power supply NFPA 20"Centrifugal Fire Pumps"requires a dependable electric power supply to a fire pump. This governing document defines that the power supply must be dependable. Consideration must also include the effect of fire on the transmission lines in the property or from adjacent buildings. It is our intent to design this pump system with a single power supply from the local utility. The Massachusetts State Building Code, 780 CMR, does not require emergency power for this building. This code requires emergency power for use groups A, E, I, and H and where the local power utility is not dependable. This building does not include occupancy with these use groups. It is our professional opinion that the electric utility for this site is dependable based on the data provided by Mr. Jim Nichols of the Massachusetts Electric Company. Per telephone conversation minutes, he stated on 4/12/02 that"over the last five years, Minute Maid has experienced an average of 1.45 outages per year for an average outage of 71 minutes". It should be noted that the current city water supply is excellent. The pump is required to meet the full pressure demand of the system, however, the fire sprinkler system will operate and partially function without the pressure boost provided by the fire pump. A full bypass will be provided around the fire pump. The electrical inspector, fire department, and building inspector have jurisdiction over this design requirement. Each of these parties should be consulted for approval of our design that does not include emergency power. Sincerely, Carl C.Koslowski,P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Page 1 of 1 minute maid no emergency generator.doc l-rem:vmce l o:Conrad Poulin Date:5/6/2002 Time:8:18:30 AM Page 2 of 2 Rybak Engineering, Inc. Fire Protection Consultants 132 Forest Avenue Warren,MA 01083-0709 (413)436-55000 Fax 436-5563 May 6,2002 Conrad Poulin M.J. Moran, Inc. 4 South Main Street Haydenville, MA 01039-0278 RE: Minute Maid, Northampton—Fire pump power supply NFPA 20"Centrifugal Fire Pumps" requires a dependable electric power supply to a fire pump. This governing document defines that the power supply must be dependable. Consideration must also include the effect of fire on the transmission lines in the property or from adjacent buildings. It is our intent to design this pump system with a single power supply from the local utility. The Massachusetts State Building Code, 780 CMR, does not require emergency power for this building. This code requires emergency power for use groups A, E, I, and H and where the local power utility is not dependable. This building does not include occupancy with these use groups. It is our professional opinion that the electric utility for this site is dependable based on the data provided by Mr. Jim Nichols of the Massachusetts Electric Company. Per telephone conversation minutes, he stated on 4/12/02 that"over the last five years, Minute Maid has experienced an average of 1.45 outages per year for an average outage of 71 minutes". It should be noted that the current city water supply is excellent. The pump is required to meet the full pressure demand of the system, however, the fire sprinkler system will operate and partially function without the pressure boost provided by the fire pump. A full bypass will be provided around the fire pump. The electrical inspector, fire department, and building inspector have jurisdiction over this design requirement. Each of these parties should be consulted for approval of our design that does not include emergency power. Sincerely, l Carl C.Koslowski,P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Page 1 of 1 minute maid no emergency generator.doc Jan 04 02 09: 07a Rybak Engineering 1 413 436 5563 P. 1 112 arren,MA01093 RYBAK ENGINEERING INC. Phone: 3)4.166-Si(X) V4arnrn,MA Ql UR3 7 Fax:(tl3 j d3F-SG.i Fire Protection Consultants Fax Cover Page To: Poulin,Conrad Fax dumber: 14132689375 Company: M J. Moran,Inc. Date: 1/4,"2002 From: Carl Koslowski e-mail : eck @,rybak-fpe.com Company: Rybak Engineering,Inc. Pages including cover page: 3 Subject . Minute Maid Electrical Po«er Supply Message: Attatched is a summary of the situation as published in Codeword. The conditions at this site are: 1. As engineer of record 1 have assessed the power supply and have determined that is in fact reliable. 2. The use group for the site is mixed, B, F1, and 31. This classification does not require emergency power. 3. As stated within the Codeword article,the Fire Marshall and Wiring Inspector are free to question my determination that reliable power exists. We should get preliminary approval from them at this point and we can can formal approval when permit documents are produced. 4. The owner has suggested that emergency power may be pursued as an added safety feature above the minimum requirements of the building code. 5. The owner has also stated a preference to an electric pump over a diesel pump based on the reduced maintenance associated with an electric pump system. Sincerely, Carl C. Koslowski, PE winFax PRO Cover Page �"G A i lee VC L116 t g13 qjG 5563 P• 1 F%ZLA921% V_(116 A F14--Vf-I(I _raa 1jJQ0 7 ...... ... (3) Buildings and structures of Use Group E,with a the IWO pump. It is this singular issue that caused the total occupant load of more than 300 occupants; convening of a Technical code Council.(rcc). (4) Buildings and structures of Use Group H, (5) Buildings and structures of Use Group 1,having Regulators that are jurisdictionally involved in the surgery or treatment areas. design and construction of buildings and their required Systems include Building Officials, Fire Officials, Wiring 5ection 324.1, titled"Oeneral, in part states that..fire Inspectors and others. Pumpr, shall be designed and installed in accordance with:527 CMR 12,00 and NFPA 20... Although the Building Official and the Fire Official are involved early in the review of a proposed fire pump Pesignfinstallation compliance with the requirements of design (Which would address the issue of reliable power), 527 CMR 12.00 ensures that all electrical work Will the Miring Inspector is typical(y not involved ear)y in the conform to the requirements of the Massachusetts Regulatory review process. He may, at the time of Electrical Code. inspection of the installation of the electric-motor- driven pump (for conformance to 527 CMR 12.00). Design/installation requirements of NFPA 20-1996 legitimately que.5t;onlchallenge an engineer of record's (standard for the Installation of Centrifugal Fire position that power to a site Is reliable. The Wiring Pumps) are interesting relative to the que.5von of inspector could then, require some form of back-up whether or not back up power (not emergency power power, based on his/her interpretation of 527 CMR because 760 CMR —the State Building Code—dictates 12.00. Such a requirement, coming late in the when emergency power is required) may be needed for construction process can have a serious negative the fire pump. Impact on cost; and building and fire pump system layout. For electric-motor-driven fire pumps, NFPA 20, Chapter 15, Section 6-2.3-1, in part, states: For pumps driven by For such reasome, it is recommended that the Wiring where reliable power cannot be obtained Inspector of the jurisdiction be brought into the from a private power station or utility service(emphasis Regulatory review process early if the engineer of record added), one or more of the following shall also be has determined that due to electric power reliability, no provided: back-up power to the fire pump is required. (a) A secondary private power station or utility sei-vice, (b) An on-site generator, Cloi;e attention should be paid to the commentary to NFPA (c) A redundant diesel-engine-driven fire pump 20 section 6-2.3 and 6-3 relative W the issue of providing complying with other portions of NFPA 20; reliable power (d) A redundant steam-turbine-driven fire pump complying with other portions of NFPA 20. Note that unless the State Building Code is requiring emergency power to the fire pump, NFPA 20 essentially allows the engineer of record to make an a66e_q§ment and arrive at a technically defendable determination as W whether or not reliable power exists at the proposed site Of the fire Pump, If the engineer of record determiner, that reliable power to the site does exist, then NFPA 20, 5ection 6-23.1, as djacuesM above, would not be expected W be invoked. Problems, however, arising in the field, involve the legitimate concern of Regulators that the engineer of record'r, reliable power assessment is inaccurate and consequent ly some form of back-up power i-4 required for Pass 6 esi U`f uc uv:ufa K`JaaK tngineering 1 91J Itib DJbd P.c i - WHEN IS EMERGENCY POWER OR OTHER BACK-UP POWER REQUIRED FOR ELECTRIC-MOTOR-DRIVEN FIRE PUMPS? (THI5 ARTfCLE AL50 PREOENT5 FINDING5 AND 065ERVA71ON5 OF A TECHNICAL CODE COUNCIL CONVENED TO Df5CU55 THlS f55UE) When should either emergency power or some form of back up power be required for fire pumps;?This is always an interesting question. The State Building Code (780 CMR, Sixth Edition), Chapter 9, Section 924.3, titled "Emergency Power", sets the "where required" criteria for when emergency power is required for fire pumps and is otherwise explicitly silent on requiring any other form of back-up power to fire pumps. Relative to emergency power requirements, Section 924.3, in part states: All fire pumps shall be provided with emergency power when installed in... (1) High-rise buifdings as defined by MGL c.145 20A and 780 CMR; (2) buildings and structures of Use Group A, with a total occupant load of more than 300 occupants; word Page 5 M.J. M O RAN, INC. LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL ' FIRE PROTECTION DIVISION 4 SOUTH MAIN STREET TELEPHONE: FAX: HAYDENVILLE, MA 01039 (413)268-7251 (413)268-9375 TO: Northampton Fire Department DATE: 05/28/02 1 JOB NUMBER: 01-801 26 Carlon Drive ATTENTION: Chief Brian Duggan Northampton, MA -01060 RE: Fire Sprinkler Upgrades At: Minute Maid WE ARE SENDING YOU ❑ ATTACHED ❑UNDER SEPARATE COVER VIA THE FOLLOWING ITEMS: ❑SHOP DRAWINGS ❑PRINTS [—]PLANS []SAMPLES ❑SPECIFICATIONS ®COPY OF LETTER ❑CHANGE ORDER ❑ COPIES DATE NUMBER DESCRIPTION 01 05/06/02 Copy Letter from Rvbak Engineering, Inc. 01 01/04/02 Copy Fax from Rvbak Engineering. Inc. qS cA a U F tM Oc11-cae 5 twe e v o v U Nye ` w V b +tie_ THESE ARE TRANSMITTED AS CHECKED BELOW: i ❑For approval ❑Approved as submitted ❑Resubmit copies for approval ❑For your use OApproved as noted ❑Submit copies for distribution ❑As requested []Returned for corrections [-]Return corrected prints ❑For review and comment ❑ ❑FOR BIDS DUE: , 2002 ❑PRINTS RETURNED AFTER LOAN TO US REMARKS: Chief Brian Duggan: We are in the preliminary design stages on this project. We would like to proceed without an emergency generator provided local authorities are in agreement with our engineer's determinations. Your response is appreciated. I am also sending copies to the Northampton Building Inspector and electrical inspector asking for their approval as well. Preliminary permit plans will be prepared when this issue is resolved. Thank you! COPY TO: Job File p SIGNED: l /� ���/ham: Date: S o2g"oa