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241 Doggie Daycare Septic Plans City of Northampton Mail -Doggie Daycare on a septic system M https://mail google.com/mai I/u/0/?ui=2&ik=9954d8032f&view=pt&s... Ed Smith<esmith @northamptonma.gov> Doggie Daycare on a septic system 4 messages Ed Smith<esmith @northamptonma.gov> Mon, Mar 3,2014 at 4:05 PM To: "Nietupski, Paul (DEP)"<paul.nietupski @state.ma.us> Cc. Merridith O'Leary<moleary@northamptonma.gov>, Daniel Wasiuk<dwasiuk @northamptonma gov> Hi Paul We get to ask you all the fun questions-any guidance about a Doggie Daycare moving into what was recently offices but before that a 3 bedroom house? It has a passed T5 from 2012 for 3BR;they propose to do grooming and boarding, and have one BR for overnight staff. I see Kennels/veterinary office under T5(50 gpd per kennel)and perhaps we can look at barber shop/beauty salon (whose customers have less hair, 100 gpd per seat). I believe they would compost the yard waste, but in hindsight that could add up(I asked for their business plan for numbers of animals proposed to serve). any help is appreciated! thanks Ed Edmund Smith Health Inspector Northampton Health Department 212 Main Street, Northampton MA 01060 (413)587-1339 Regular Schedule: Monday&Wednesday,8-4:30;Thursday 8-12 noon. Nietupski, Paul(DEP)<paul.nietupski @state.ma.us> Tue, Mar 4,2014 at 1200 PM To: Ed Smith<esmith @northamptonma.gov> Cc. Merridith O'Leary<moleary@northamptonma gay>, Daniel Wasiuk<dwasiuk@northamptonma.gov> Ed, The design flow for Kennels includes wash down and is the only design flow specified in 15.203 that would fit the Doggie Daycare. Having said that I've heard that a number of these type of operations have applied to Boston/DEP for an alternative design flow under 15.203(6),a BRP WP 70 Application;typically 200%of water meter readings. Given that the facility has a 330 gpd system,that only equates to 6 kennels (and that's not excluding the one bedroom for overnight staff)and I'm not sure how many dogs equals to a kennel. So the W P70 may be the only viable option. From a previous email from Ron White(the DEP Boston person who permits W P70s): "In order to determine flow they would need to define what the facility lay out is and what service(s)it provides." When I spoke with Andrea yesterday she indicated they also wanted to compost the doggie pooh. I've spoken to Dan Hall in DEP/SWM and he indicated he may have an answer as early as tomorrow as to the requirements for composting(e.g.whether it could be considered residential or a small composting operation). Although Andrea said they had no plans to,if they provide flea dips or other chemical treatments they need to go to an industrial holding tank. Stay tuned. Paul Paul Nietupski Wastewater Management DEP-WERO 436 Dwight Street I of 2 3/10/2014 12:40 PM City of Northampton Mail-Doggie Daycare on a septic system hops://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=9954d8032f&view=pt&s... Y Springfield,MA 01103 (413)755-2218 (413)784-1149(FAX) e-mail:paul.nietupski @state.ma.us -The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material.If you are not the intended recipient,please do not retransmit or disseminate. If you have received this email in error please contact me and delete the material from your computer.Thank you,- From: Ed Smith [mailto:esmith @northamptonma.gov] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:05 PM To: Nietupski, Paul (DEP) Cc: Merridith O'Leary; Daniel Wasiuk Subject: Doggie Daycare on a septic system (Quoted text hidden] (City of Northampton E-mail is a public record except when it falls under one of the specific statutory exemptions.) Ed Smith (esmith @northamptonma.gov> Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:07 PM To: "Nietupski, Paul(DEP)"cpautnietupski @state.ma.us> Cc: Merridith O'Leary<moleary@northamptonma.gov>, Daniel Wasiuk<dwasiuk @northamptonma.gov> Thanks Paul,this is already interesting with the promise of more to come. Ed [Quoted text hidden] Ed Smith <esmith @northamptonma.gov> Tue, Mar 4,2014 at 12:08 PM To:Julie Federman<federmanj @amherstma.gov> thought you would enjoy this since we just talked about it Ed [Quoted text hidden] 2 of2 3/10/2014 12:40 PM City sf Northampton Mail-241 Haydenville Road(ex.Girl Scout HQ)... httpsJ/mail.google.com/mail/u/0/7ui=2&ik9954d8032f&view=pt&s... t Ed Smith<esmith @northamptonma.gov> 241 Haydenville Road (ex. Girl Scout HQ) - Proposed Doggie Daycare 6 messages Ed Smith cesmith @northamptonma.gov> Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:33 PM 70:weaselhead2289 @att.net Dear Andrea Shea- Attached is a scan of the Title 5 inspection report from 2012 which is on file in our office. I will talk over with the Health Department(Merridith O'Leary)the use to which you would put the property,and how that fits in with the on site. Section 15.203 of Title 5 gives us guidance about various uses and their average demands on a septic can see Title 5 here: http://www.mass.govfeea/docs/dept service/regulations/310cmr15.pdf). Please give us some information about business you are setting up, such as maximum number of dogs on site each day,what would be your boarding overnight animals, how many bathrooms,the one bedroom you mentionned for the overnight staff, kitchen, etc. submitting a business plan for other Northampton departments? Please copy us those plans. Reply with questions and well do our best to answer them- sincerely Ed Smith Edmund Smith Health Inspector Northampton Health Department 212 Main Street, Northampton MA 01060 (413)587-1339 Regular Schedule: Monday&Wednesday, 8-4:30', Thursday 8-12 noon. CCI03032014.pdf 14784K Director of the septic system system (you the size of the capacity for Are you Ed Smith <esmith @northamptonma.gov> Mon, Mar 3,2014 at 3:37 PM To Heather Mcbride<hmcbride @northamptonma.gov>, Merridith O'Leary<moleary@northamptonma.gov> [Quoted text hidden] CC103032014.pdf 14784K robert shea<weaselhead2289 @att.net> Reply-To: robert shea sweaselhead2289 @att.net> To: Ed Smith<esmith @northamptonma.gov> Cc: Rachel Drossel<confidentk9 @gmail ccm> Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:20 PM Hello Ed, Hopefully,within the next few years,we would have up to 50 dogs on site. Probably not more than 12 dogs over night during peak seasons(peak meaning only 2 months a year). We are also planning on providing kennel baths. For this reason I wanted to avoid using the septic system because Em sure this will over work the system and I'm looking into installing a gray water system. Dog feces will be handled by an on site composting system and/or a doggie dooley, which is basically a miniature septic system, if this gets approved.The facility has three 1/2 baths, with the hopes of installing I shower in the future. At no time should the staff on site at any one time, exceed 6-8 employees. As far as other Northampton Depts,we have already submitted to the Planning I of3 3/10/2014 12:42 PM City of Northampton Mail-241 Haydenville Road(ex.Girl Scout HQ)... https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=9954d8032f&view pt&s... Board,and are not aware at this time how many other depts. need to be involved, hence the phone calls to you and the DEP. Thank you for all your help in this matter. Looking forward to hearing from you. Bob Shea From: Ed Smith<esmith @northamptonma.gov> To:weaselhead2289 @att.net Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 3'.33 PM Subject:241 Haydenville Road(ex. Girl Scout HQ)-Proposed Doggie Daycare IQm,W texthidd ] (City of Northampton E—mail is a public record except when it falls under one of the specific statutory exemptions. ) Ed Smith <esmith @northamptonma.gov> Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:29 AM To: robert shea<weaselhead2289 @att.net> Cc: Rachel Drossel<confidentk9 @gmail.com>, Merridith O'Leary cmoleary@northamptonma.gov>, Daniel Wasiuk <dwasiuk @northamptonma.gov>, Heather Mcbride<hmcbride @northamptonma.gov> Hi Bob- thanks for the info-send us info about the doggie dooley and the siting of that on the property. Who would install the above? Ed Smith Quoted text hidden] robert shea<weaselhead2289 @att.net> Reply-To: robert shea<weaselhead2289 @attnet> To: Ed Smith<esmith @northamptonma.gov> Tue, Mar 4,2014 at 7:08 PM Hi Ed, I'm sending you a proposed site plan with the location of the doggie dooley on it. I'm also sending you a picture and descriptions of what a doggie dooley is. Our intention is to install a similar system but on a larger scale, utilizing two fifty five gallon plastic drums,with a twenty foot drainage field. I will be looking for a contractor who is qualified in both retaining walls and septic systems,to perform all said work. In my last&mail I neglected to mention that all of the products we use will be environmentally friendly as we would like to keep our business as green as possible. Also,do you have anything to do with the gray drainage system I would like to install or would that be public works?Thanks again for your help. Bob Shea From: Ed Smith<esmith @northamptonma.gov> To:robert shea<weaselhead2289 @att.net> Cc: Rachel Drossel<confidentk9 @gmail.com>, Merridith O'Leary<moleary@northamptonma.gov>: Daniel Wasiuk <dwasiuk @northamptonma.gov>; Heather Mcbride<hmcbride @northamptonma.gov> Sent: Tuesday, March 4,2014 8:29 AM Subject:Re:241 Haydenville Road(ex. Girl Scout HQ)-Proposed Doggie Daycare [Quoted text hidden] 3 attachments 2 of 3/10/2014 12:42 PM City of Northampton Mail-241 Haydenville Road(ex.Girl Scout HQ)... https://mail.googlecom/mail/u/0/?ui 2&ik9954d8032f&view=pt&s... doggy dooley.jpg 157K Sam's house.pBO 335K upstairs jpeg.jpg 75K Ed Smith<esmith@northamptonma.gov> Wed, Mar 5,2014 at 8:23 AM To: robed shea<weaselhead2289 @att.net> Cc: Menidith O'Leary<moleary@northamptonma.gov>, Daniel Wasiuk<dwasiuk@northamptonma.gov> Thanks Bob, Well read with interest this info and I'll probably have more questions for you soon. 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